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The world-class leader’s journey has three turns. 

In the first, you learn to lead your self. You learn about you, your capacities, your boundaries, and how to lead where you are concerned. 

In the second, others have acknowledged your gifts and invite you to lead a team or an organization. You learn about the organization - its capacities and its boundaries, and about how to lead where others are concerned. 

Once these turns are mastered, the world-class leader can enter turn three —a uniquely sculpted place. You have opportunity to craft deeper vision out of chaos, to discover and orchestrate future value for the organization you steward, and to lead where legacy is concerned. Executive leaders whose careers take them to ultimate guidance of an organization are challenged to move into futures they might glimpse but often cannot fully see. A firm's future value, as well as the executive's succession and legacy, is tied to how they lead from this point. This is Maestro-level leadership. 

The Maestro-level leader is entering the third turn of a journey; this is where our conversations will flow as a resource for accomplished leaders who intend to soar toward that future.

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Mark L. Vincent  Phd, EPC

Founder, Maestro-level leaders

In addition to facilitating Maestro-level leaders and his work as an Executive Advisor, Mark is the Founder of Design Group International and was instrumental in the launch of the Society for Process Consulting, where he teaches the introductory and core competencies courses for those seeking a professional credential.

Mark's accumulated experience includes more than thirty-five years pioneering a variety of approaches to leadership and organizational capacity-building, entrepreneurship, interim executive leadership, CEO peer-based advising, and professional development and credentialing. His focus on a process approach to helping organizations and leaders live into their mission has led to successful adaptive change initiatives with nearly 700 clients across varied domestic and international marketplaces.

Mark Chairs the Partnership for Design Group International and serves on the boards of Cox Family Holdings, Petersen Products, and the Steward’s Journey. He also sits on the Standards and Ethics Committee for the Society for Process Consulting.

Married to Patricia Teall Vincent, a life coach, their time divides between family, work and earnest conversations in the various coffee shops of Boise, Idaho and Eastern Wisconsin.

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Kristin Evenson   

Change & Transitions Coach | Consultant | Facilitator, Junctures LLC

Kristin serves as a Consultant and Coach to leaders, teams, and boards by helping them leverage their unique brand of significance in context of:

  • Strategic junctures--Helping leaders and teams identify what can’t change and what must;
  • Leadership & life challenges—Helping leaders support, sustain and strengthen their soul in leadership;
  • Career change & transition—Helping them think creatively and courageously about what’s next.

Kristin spent 20 years with Fallon Worldwide, leading brand and communications strategy development for clients across a variety of industries—including Nordstrom, Holiday Inn Express, and Children’s Defense Fund. Her career journey since has included stints as marketing/strategy director and consultant to companies, nonprofits and ministries in the areas of strategy, culture, communications and board governance. Her teams’ work won multiple national effectiveness awards, and her consulting work resulted in a “Best Practice in People/Workplace” by Upsize Magazine.

Having completed NeuroLeadership Institute’s Brain-Based Coaching Program, Kristin incorporates brain-based principles into change initiatives for organizations, teams, and individuals. She and her husband Jeff Rosell have four awesome adult sons and host an international daughter, originally from South Sudan.

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Episode 14: Parent to Child Business Transitions
Brian Van de Water's Third Turn entailed moving out of a President's role to the work he now does with SPL Consulting in strategic planning, lean process, and succession planning, largely in family-owned firms. We invited Brian to talk through his extensive experience in creating bridges between a Founder-Owner and the child or otherwise-appointed heir to a business. The result is an informative conversation for all of us working in or advising family- and privately-owned companies.

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Episode 13: I Can't Find My Heart!
Formula 1 racer wannabe, therapist, Convene Chair, and co-owner of Eden Business Concepts, Dennis Humphrey joins us for a conversation about the heart of the Executive Leader. He is a reminder that influence and long-term development of self and others come from listening and inquiry, not pushing and shouting.

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Episode 12: What Are The Trends?
In this episode, Mark L. Vincent and Kristin Evenson discuss three specific cultural trends they've been noticing that have a significant impact on both leaders and those they serve.

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Episode 11: It's all Soup!
Mike Tenpas is a Maestro-level leader with a strong history of company growth, building a healthy company culture, and meeting the needs of the UFS marketplace. This conversation covers his journey of coming behind a Founder and entering into his own Third Turn in executive leadership.

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Episode 10: The Successor's Journey
In this episode of the Third Turn Podcast, we engage in a twin set of interviews with CEOs who followed strong predecessors. Listen to Lon Swartzentruber, CEO of Design Group International, and Carmen Fowler LaBerge, Host of Reconnect with Carmen, to tackle what worked for them, what didn't, and what they would have done differently.

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Episode 9: Being the CEO of Your Body
Chelsea Gloeckner is purposeful. And her purpose ties to yours, if you are serious about lifelong excellent leadership and remaining at the top of your game -- not just through the years but in the ups and downs of your daily rhythms. Her insight and practical suggestions are your friends. Join us as we talk through how to be the CEO of Your Body with Chelsea.

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Episode 8: Metamodernity and Bildung - Part 2
Join us as we continue on our conversation with Lene Rachel Andersen. As a Danish futurist and Bildung renaissance leader, Lene digs into the topics of Metamodernity and Bildung.

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Episode 7: Metamodernity and Bildung - Part 1
With each episode of the Third Turn Podcast we host a conversation among leaders who want the world to flourish for generations beyond their lifetimes.  Lene Rachel Andersen does this in spades. As a Danish futurist and Bildung renaissance leader, Lene digs into the topics of Metamodernity and Bildung.

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Episode 6: The Brimful Life
Hear an inspiring conversation with Beth Ridley, a Third Turn leader, who brings her extensive expertise in positive psychology and leadership of global teams to the building of healthy organizational cultures to our next episode.

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Episode 5:The Four Doorways of the Three Turns
This episode picks up on musings co-host Jeanette Robért had at the very beginning: What about those who find themselves at a doorway into their next turn as a leader?  What if they are stuck? How do they get through? How might they recognize that they are approaching their next turn?

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Episode 4: Succession
A conversation with Doug Fagerstrom, CEO of Marketplace Chaplains and co-author with Peter Greer in the recently released book Succession.  Doug provides great insight, with a compelling case for succession to be at the heart of an executive's work from the beginning.

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Episode 3: The Brain and the Third Turn Leader
We welcome Kristin Evenson to discuss what happens in the brain when executive leaders face major transitions.

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Episode 2: Those Three Turns
This Episode is a deeper dive into the Three Turns of the Executive Leader. We lay out the map and briefly touch on either making one of those turns a satisfying career, or, alternatively, getting stuck.

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Episode 1: Hello!
In this first podcast, we are going to lay the groundwork for what we hope is a long and strong partnership, providing a resource for the advanced executive leader who is focused on developing future value, a strong succession and a lasting legacy. We use the phrase “for our grandchildren’s grandchildren and the grandchildren’s grandchildren of others” as a way to picture what we are after.

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