--- title: "Episode 37: 360 Wisdom for Leadership Inflection Points" description: "Jodi Hubler, our guest for Episode #37, is a very accomplished leader with deep experience in the C suite, the boardroom and as an investor, all of which give her lots of wisdom, insights, and pitfalls to share about transformational change, executive transition, and board governance. At the core, Jodi's contributions center on leading and governing in industries facing transformative change. And now in her own Third Turn calling, Jodi is using her passion and expertise to amplify impact for underserved, underrepresented communities--specifically nonprofits, women-led businesses, and entrepreneurial ecosystems." image: https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/010422%20-%20Jodi%20Hubler%20Blog%20Post%20Header.png --- ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? 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Like for most of us, signs of Jodi’s leadership philosophy and Third Turn calling showed up early and often in her life: - As a principled 17-year-old, picketing the closure of her high school, stymied by the what’s, why’s, and ripple effects of this leadership decision; - In her 20s and various executive roles, recognizing and factoring in how employees would be significantly impacted by executive strategic-change decisions at both Cargill and Alcoa; - And in her early start-up company experience, being very intentional about employee experience and the possibility that it could indeed serve as a competitive advantage. The net of all this?  *‘It became my life’s work that transformation didn’t have to come in a kind of scorched-earth experience; that we could do transformative change differently.’* And Jodi certainly applies this to leadership transition as well.  She shares with us some unique insights and 360-perspective from her roles as CHRO, venture capital investor, and board chair/director.  Among them: - Building programmatic discipline into transition planning and process; - Evaluating a leader’s ability to navigate current and future inflection points and planning strategically for that; - Avoiding three overarching challenges and pitfalls she sees: 1) waiting too long to address transition, 2) not being planful, 3) fear and avoidance of the tough conversations; - Recognizing that change management applies to the board as well--that as the needs of the organization change so do the needs of the board, and the board must develop itself accordingly, neither overly leading or lagging; - Embracing the opportunity to do transitions well--with grace and space that balances both the needs of the organization and of the individual. According to Jodi, leadership inflection points are opportunities for greater intention and discipline--and we couldn’t agree more. Additional Resources: - [Jodi’s LinkedIn profile](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodi-hubler-64aba8/) - [Culture Partners](http://culture.io) (previously known as Partners in Leadership) - An organization Jodi references, whose mission is to help clients unleash the power of culture. ![Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg?width=123&name=Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg) ![Kristin - Signature Final](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Kristin%20-%20Signature%20Final.png?width=85&name=Kristin%20-%20Signature%20Final.png) [- Kristin Evenson](https://www.junctures.net/)   With each episode of the [Third Turn Podcast](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/the-third-turn-podcast) we host a conversation among leaders who want the world to flourish for generations beyond their lifetimes. 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[Strategically Connected](https://www.strategically-connected.com/)'s Jennifer Miller is the producer.   Discover more about The Third Turn Podcast:* ![Third Turn Podcast QR Code](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png?width=117&name=Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png) * ###### Tags: [governance, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/governance) [leadership, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/leadership) [Maestro-level Leaders, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/maestro-level-leaders) [The Third Turn, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/the-third-turn) [Maestro, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/maestro) [Transformative Change, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/transformative-change) [Transition](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/transition) ![Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg) Post by [Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/kristin-evenson) January 4, 2022 Kristin serves as a Consultant and Coach to leaders, teams, and boards by helping them leverage their unique brand of significance in context of: - Strategic junctures--Helping leaders and teams identify what can’t change and what must; - Leadership & life challenges—Helping leaders support, sustain and strengthen their soul in leadership; - Career change & transition—Helping them think creatively and courageously about what’s next. Kristin spent 20 years with Fallon Worldwide, leading brand and communications strategy development for clients across a variety of industries—including Nordstrom, Holiday Inn Express, and Children’s Defense Fund. Her career journey since has included stints as marketing/strategy director and consultant to companies, nonprofits and ministries in the areas of strategy, culture, communications and board governance. Her teams’ work won multiple national effectiveness awards, and her consulting work resulted in a “Best Practice in People/Workplace” by Upsize Magazine. Having completed NeuroLeadership Institute’s Brain-Based Coaching Program, Kristin incorporates brain-based principles into change initiatives for organizations, teams, and individuals. She and her husband Jeff Rosell have four awesome adult sons and host an international daughter, originally from South Sudan. 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