--- title: Episode 11 -- Third Turn Podcast Recap description: Mike Tenpas is a Maestro-level leader with a strong history of company growth, building a healthy company culture, and meeting the needs of the UFS marketplace. This conversation covers his journey of coming behind a Founder and entering into his own Third Turn in executive leadership. image: https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/010521%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png --- ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies Get Started # Episode 11 -- Third Turn Podcast Recap ![Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Mark%20new%20pic.jpeg) by [Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/mark-l-vincent) January 05, 2021 ![010521 - Social Post Image](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/010521%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png?width=1600&name=010521%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png) **Or Listen on your Favorite Platform:** **[![Spotify](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/spotify-icon-green-logo-8.png?width=50&name=spotify-icon-green-logo-8.png)](https://open.spotify.com/show/1AA0Ddsaplyjsriqtsi8G2)**[ ![Apple Podcast](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Apple%20Podcast.jpg?width=50&name=Apple%20Podcast.jpg)](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-third-turn/id1531836413)**[ ![Google Podcasts](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Google%20Podcasts.png?width=50&name=Google%20Podcasts.png) ](https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8yY2YyM2NlMC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==)****[ ![Pandora](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Pandora.png?width=51&name=Pandora.png)   ](https://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-3rd-turn/PC:43267)****[![Anchor FM](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/anchor.png?width=50&name=anchor.png)](https://anchor.fm/thethirdturn)**   **It's all Soup!** Episode #11 of the Third Turn Podcast - a conversation with Mike Tenpas of UFS     Mike Tenpas is a Maestro-level leader with a strong history of company growth, building a healthy company culture, and meeting the needs of the UFS marketplace.   This conversation covers his journey of coming behind a Founder and entering into his own Third Turn in executive leadership, all while leading his organization through a transformational chapter. Of special note is Mike's explanation of his oft-used phrase *It's all Soup! * - a metaphor for the integrated life.     This conversation also touches on peer-based advising. We especially commend:   - [www.philipcbergey.com](https://www.philipcbergey.com) -- Phil Bergey, a Senior Design Partner with Design Group International, leads a team for senior business leaders in Eastern Pennsylvania. - [Women Leaders Transforming Influence](https://share.hsforms.com/1J_vd6rRWTeqxUqKKWQY0oQ2f88)  -- Dawn Graber Yoder, a Senior Consultant with Design Group International, leads a national team for women leaders. - [www.convenenow.com](http://www.convenenow.com) -- Teams are available in a variety of communities across the USA. Virtual team options are available as well.   ***And, of course, for those moving into their Third Turn:  ***[www.maestroleveleaders.com](http://www.maestroleveleaders.com) available internationally   With each episode of the [Third Turn Podcast](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/the-third-turn-podcast), we host a conversation among leaders who want the world to flourish for generations beyond their lifetimes.  We invite you to listen individually or in groups, with your own conversations to follow.   We always welcome you sharing these podcasts with others as well as sending along any suggestions for making these podcasts better.   The [Third Turn Podcast](http://www.thirdturnpodcast.com/) is part of the [Maestro-level leaders](http://www.maestrolevelleaders.com/) initiative, a production of  [Design Group International.](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/)    *Maestro-level leaders* *provides tools for a fruitful journey for Executive Leaders in the Third Turn, along with travel companions. This blog, the Third Turn podcast, and a Maestro-level leaders cohort aid the ongoing resource and raise the vision for other leaders to aspire to their own Third Turn. * * * *The next* *[Maestro-level leader cohort launches in January 2021.](http://www.maestrolevelleaders.com/)*     [-mark l vincent](http://www.marklvincent.com/)       Discover more about ***The Third Turn Podcast***: ![Third Turn Podcast QR Code](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png?width=181&name=Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png)     ###### Tags: [leadership succession, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/leadership-succession) [executive leadership, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/executive-leadership) [CEO, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/ceo) [Maestro-level Leaders, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/maestro-level-leaders) [The Third Turn Podcast, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/the-third-turn-podcast) [Mike Tenpas, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/mike-tenpas) [company culture, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/company-culture) [company growth](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/company-growth) ![Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Mark%20new%20pic.jpeg) Post by [Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/mark-l-vincent) January 5, 2021 I walk alongside leaders, listening to understand their challenges, and helping them lead healthy organizations that flourish. [Follow me on LinkedIn ](https://www.linkedin.com/in/marklvincent/) ### Comments ![DGI Logo - Icon w_ Core Competencies](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/_DGI%20Logo%20(New)/DGI%20Logo%20-%20Icon%20w_%20Core%20Competencies.png?width=300&height=300&name=DGI%20Logo%20-%20Icon%20w_%20Core%20Competencies.png) ### Want to Learn More About Design Group International? 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