--- title: "Episode 50: Those Three Turns Revisited" description: In this, our 50th podcast-iversary, Mark L. Vincent and Kristin Evenson celebrate by reflecting on and resharing some meaningful excerpts among the many meaningful Third Turn topics and guests throughout this conversation series. Please join in as they replay and reflect, and enjoy a flyover of key themes covered as we continue to explore what it means to live and lead with a greater good and our grandchildren’s grandchildren in mind. image: https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Mark%20Blog%20Post%20Featured%20Images.png --- ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies Get Started # Episode 50: Those Three Turns Revisited ![Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg) by [Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/kristin-evenson) July 05, 2022 ![070522 - Kristin & Mark - Blog Post Header](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/070522%20-%20Kristin%20%26%20Mark%20-%20Blog%20Post%20Header.png?width=517&name=070522%20-%20Kristin%20%26%20Mark%20-%20Blog%20Post%20Header.png) Those Three Turns Revisited [Episode #50 of the Third Turn Podcast with Kristin & Mark](https://anchor.fm/thethirdturn/episodes/Those-Three-Turns-Revisited-e1kjiqk) ![1-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-90-PM](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/1-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-90-PM.png?width=250&name=1-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-90-PM.png) Our 50th episode provides a great opportunity for us to pause and reflect on a few of the many meaningful conversations we’ve had with Third Turn leaders. And for you as listeners, it might serve the same purpose, or serve as a nice introduction or macro-level flyover of themes to share with friends.   We revisit excerpts from topics and conversations like: ![2-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-71-PM](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/2-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-71-PM.png?width=250&name=2-Jun-29-2022-09-09-23-71-PM.png) - - - Living and leaving a generational legacy ([Episode 45 - Burkey Brothers](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-45-developing-living-a-maestro-level-vision)) - The leadership threat of failure of heart, failure of nerve ([Episode 35 - Tod Bolsinger](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-35-adaptive-capacity-sabotage-and-resilience)) - Navigating polarities as leaders ([Episode 46 - Phil Bergey](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-43-essential-and-intentional-things-among-the-demands)) - Assessing leadership potential at strategic inflection points ([Episode 37 - Jodi Hubler](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-37-360-wisdom-for-leadership-inflection-points)) - Approaching business with a give-first orientation ([Episode 33 - Dacia Coffey](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-33-driving-down-the-revenue-road)) - Recognizing inklings of one’s own leadership focus and purpose throughout life ([Episode 37 - Jodi Hubler](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-37-360-wisdom-for-leadership-inflection-points)) - And a leadership succession story whose outcome would have been defined as a failure at the outset, but actually was incredibly redemptive in a very roundabout way. ([Episode 40 - Steve Coleman](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-40-transitions-the-best-and-worst-of-times)) The Third Turn conversations we have throughout these podcasts(now 50!) continue to be a gift and inspiration to Mark and me. And it most certainly is our hope and our purpose that they enrich your leadership and life as well. Additional Resources: The resources we reference in this episode are especially rich, so please peruse and explore this list and these links! - - - “The Blessing” ([Lyrics](https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zLI0S4k3M0oyYPTiKclIVUjKSS0uzsxLBwB5IQjk&q=the+blessing&oq=the+blessing&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i433i512j46i175i199i512j0i433i512l2j46i512j0i512j46i512j0i512l2.4886j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NMyyNEuJNzNKesRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OIKzsgvd80rySypFJLmYoOyBKX4uVB18uxi0ktJTUsszSmJL0lMsspOttLPLS3OTNYvSk3OL0rJzEuPT84pLS5JLbLKqSzKTC5exCpckpGqkJSTWlwMlFWAiAIAr-aoTpMAAAA) and [music video](http://youtube.com/watch?v=uZ55mDL7dA0)) - A beautiful spiritual/worship song by Cody Carnes, Elevation Worship, and Kari Jobe that speaks powerfully and poignantly to generational legacy - [Corporate Caffeine: Boosting B2b Growth Through Sales and Marketing Alignment](https://www.amazon.com/Corporate-Caffeine-Boosting-Marketing-Alignment/dp/1663219265/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TLHNA408OZNQ&keywords=dacia+coffey&qid=1655935933&sprefix=dacia+co%2Caps%2C347&sr=8-1) by Dacia Coffey - [Canoeing the Mountains](https://www.amazon.com/Canoeing-Mountains-Christian-Leadership-Uncharted/dp/0830841474/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Q18L7N9BCTPJ&keywords=canoeing+the+mountains+by+tod+bolsinger&qid=1655992651&sprefix=canoeing%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-1) by Tod Bolsinger - Waiting for Things to Unfold - - [Leadership Meets Life Podcast on Navigating Polarities](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-polarities-conflict-using-both-thinking-to/id1562957366?i=1000522172839) by Phil Bergey - [The Johari window](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/muscles-old-and-new) - a resource for helping navigate polarity - [Waiting for Things to Unfold](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5pzaf7ymp1eohdywu2wpo/Waiting-for-Things-to-Unfold_CAC.docx?dl=0&rlkey=5u219s43ykri8y5aq47uf6vj6)   Listen to the Episode Now: Or Listen on your Favorite Platform: [![Spotify](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/spotify-icon-green-logo-8.png?width=25&name=spotify-icon-green-logo-8.png)](https://open.spotify.com/show/1AA0Ddsaplyjsriqtsi8G2)[ ![Apple Podcast](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Apple%20Podcast.jpg?width=25&name=Apple%20Podcast.jpg)](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-third-turn/id1531836413)[ ![Google Podcasts](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Google%20Podcasts.png?width=25&name=Google%20Podcasts.png) ](https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8yY2YyM2NlMC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==)[ ![Pandora](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Pandora.png?width=25&name=Pandora.png)  ](https://www.pandora.com/podcast/the-3rd-turn/PC:43267)[![Anchor FM](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/anchor.png?width=25&name=anchor.png)](https://anchor.fm/thethirdturn) ![Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg?width=123&name=Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg) ![Kristin - Signature Final](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Kristin%20-%20Signature%20Final.png?width=85&name=Kristin%20-%20Signature%20Final.png) [- Kristin Evenson](https://www.junctures.net/)   *[![Want to Subscribe? Click here.](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/113048/7c77b69a-8ab4-4c30-a2f6-6393a1924cd5.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/113048/7c77b69a-8ab4-4c30-a2f6-6393a1924cd5)* *About The Third Turn Podcast & Maestro-level leaders:* With each episode of the [Third Turn Podcast](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/the-third-turn-podcast), we host a conversation among leaders who want the world to flourish for generations beyond their lifetimes. Listening with others in some way and enjoying in-depth conversations of your own as you reflect and choose what you would do the same or differently is a plus! We always welcome you sharing these podcasts with others as well as sending along any suggestions for making these podcasts better. The [Third Turn Podcast](http://www.thirdturnpodcast.com/) is part of the [Maestro-level leaders](http://www.maestrolevelleaders.com/) initiative, a production of [Design Group International](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/). [Strategically Connected](https://www.strategically-connected.com/)'s Jennifer Miller is the producer. ###### Tags: [leadership, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/leadership) [The Third Turn, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/the-third-turn) [learning, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/learning) [Third Turn Blog](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/third-turn-blog) ![Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Kristin%20Evenson.jpeg) Post by [Kristin Evenson](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/kristin-evenson) July 5, 2022 Kristin serves as a Consultant and Coach to leaders, teams, and boards by helping them leverage their unique brand of significance in context of: - Strategic junctures--Helping leaders and teams identify what can’t change and what must; - Leadership & life challenges—Helping leaders support, sustain and strengthen their soul in leadership; - Career change & transition—Helping them think creatively and courageously about what’s next. Kristin spent 20 years with Fallon Worldwide, leading brand and communications strategy development for clients across a variety of industries—including Nordstrom, Holiday Inn Express, and Children’s Defense Fund. Her career journey since has included stints as marketing/strategy director and consultant to companies, nonprofits and ministries in the areas of strategy, culture, communications and board governance. Her teams’ work won multiple national effectiveness awards, and her consulting work resulted in a “Best Practice in People/Workplace” by Upsize Magazine. Having completed NeuroLeadership Institute’s Brain-Based Coaching Program, Kristin incorporates brain-based principles into change initiatives for organizations, teams, and individuals. She and her husband Jeff Rosell have four awesome adult sons and host an international daughter, originally from South Sudan. [Follow me on LinkedIn ](https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinevenson/) ### Comments ![The Third Turn Logo](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/_Website%20Headers%20and%20Brand%20Imagery/Resource%20Icons/The%20Third%20Turn%20Logo.png?width=300&height=300&name=The%20Third%20Turn%20Logo.png) #### Third Turn Blog Resources and discussions on organizational development for Maestro-level Leaders. #### [Subscribe to the LinkedIn Newsletter Here!](https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-third-turn-blog-7200892369653678080/) * * [![Design Group International](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/_DGI%20Logo%20(New)/DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape%20w_%20Tagline_White.png?width=325&height=153&name=DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape%20w_%20Tagline_White.png) ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/) - ABOUT US - MEET US - BE A CONSULTANT - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - RESOURCES © 2022 Design Group International. All rights reserved. [Privacy Policy](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/privacy-policy) | [Reprint Policy](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/reprint-policy) | [Terms of Use](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/terms-of-use) - - ```json { "@context" : "http://schema.org/", "@type" : "BlogPosting", "author" : { "@type" : "Person", "name" : "Kristin Evenson", "url" : "https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/kristin-evenson" }, "dateModified" : "2022-08-13T4:48:50 AM", "datePublished" : "2022-07-05 13:00:00", "description" : "In this, our 50th podcast-iversary, Mark L. Vincent and Kristin Evenson celebrate by reflecting on and resharing some meaningful excerpts among the many meaningful Third Turn topics and guests throughout this conversation series. Please join in as they replay and reflect, and enjoy a flyover of key themes covered as we continue to explore what it means to live and lead with a greater good and our grandchildren’s grandchildren in mind. ", "headline" : "Episode 50: Those Three Turns Revisited", "image" : { "@type" : "ImageObject", "height" : 16, "url" : "https://www.lean-labs.com/hubfs/LLv2/images/favicon-0.ico", "width" : 16 }, "mainEntityOfPage" : { "@id" : "https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/episode-50-those-three-turns-revisited", "@type" : "WebPage" }, "name" : "Episode 50: Those Three Turns Revisited", "publisher" : { "@type" : "Organization", "logo" : { "@type" : "ImageObject", "height" : 156, "url" : "https://www.lean-labs.com/hs-fs/hubfs/LLv2/images/logo-lean-labs-dark_2x.png?width=453&height=156&name=logo-lean-labs-dark_2x.png", "width" : 453 }, "name" : "Lean Labs" } } ```