--- title: Episode 4 -- Third Turn Podcast Recap description: Episode #4 is a conversation with Doug Fagerstrom, CEO of Marketplace Chaplains and co-author with Peter Greer in the recently released book Succession.  Doug provides great insight, with a compelling case for succession to be at the heart of an executive's work from the beginning.  image: https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/101320%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png --- ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) ![www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI Logo (New)DGI Logo - Landscape-1](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/social-suggested-images/www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png?width=200&height=93&name=www.designgroupinternational.comhs-fshubfs_DGI%20Logo%20(New)DGI%20Logo%20-%20Landscape-1.png) - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies - [ABOUT US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - What is Process Consulting? - [MEET US ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Areas of Specialty - Meet Our Process Consultants - Meet our Partners and Senior Consultants - Meet our Consultants - [Maestro-level leaders](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Society for Process Consulting](https://www.maestrosuiteadvisors.com/) - [Culture Change Leadership](https://www.acausegreater.org/) - [BE A CONSULTANT ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Explore Process Consulting - Community of Practice - Shared Platform - [BE CREDENTIALED](https://linktr.ee/MaestroSuiteAdvisors) - [RESOURCES ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/javascript;) - Blog Library - Books - Podcasts - Cohorts - Case Studies Get Started # Episode 4 -- Third Turn Podcast Recap ![Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Mark%20new%20pic.jpeg) by [Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/author/mark-l-vincent) October 13, 2020 ![101320 - Social Post Image](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/101320%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png?width=1600&name=101320%20-%20Social%20Post%20Image.png) **Succession. ** **Episode #4 of the Third Turn Podcast**   The Third Turn Podcast locations now include [CLATV!](https://christianleadershipalliance.org/resources/clatv/#/) The subscriber base is growing along with the podcast's homes. Thank you, everyone!   Episode #4 is a conversation with [Doug Fagerstrom](https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-fagerstrom-5b83584/), CEO of Marketplace Chaplains and co-author with Peter Greer in the recently released book [Succession.](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/55131513-succession)  Doug provides great insight, with a compelling case for succession to be at the heart of an executive's work from the beginning.    Best Christian Workplaces Institute interviews Peter Greer on their podcast, which you can access [here.](https://www.bcwinstitute.org/podcast/do-you-have-a-great-succession-plan-peter-greer/)   We were able to record this one in person, which meant we could also make it available as a video. Thank you to all who made the production possible!  Check out the video below:         The [Third Turn Podcast](http://www.thirdturnpodcast.com/) is part of the [Maestro-level leaders](http://www.maestrolevelleaders.com/) initiative of [Design Group International.](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/) Jeanette Robért of [Marketplace Chaplains](https://mchapusa.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGdsD8xyBVGs44QNI3vNzGpRX0ORTH8NphN3BFA6HE-VD8RrlV2HP6RoC69oQAvD_BwE) co-hosts with me, and [Strategically Connected's](https://www.linkedin.com/company/strategically-connected/about/) Jennifer Miller is the producer.   We welcome you sharing these episodes with others, in addition to any ideas, suggestions for people we should interview - and your avid listenership.   *Maestro-level leaders* *provides tools of a fruitful journey for Executive Leaders in their Third Turn, along with travel companions. This blog, the Third Turn podcast, and a Maestro-level leaders cohort develop this ongoing resource and raise the vision for other leaders to aspire to a Third Turn. The next* *[Maestro-level leader cohort launches in January 2021.](http://www.maestrolevelleaders.com/)*     [-mark l vincent](http://www.marklvincent.com/)     Discover more about ***The Third Turn Podcast***: ![Third Turn Podcast QR Code](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png?width=181&name=Third%20Turn%20Podcast%20QR%20Code.png)   ###### Tags: [The Third Turn Podcast, ](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/the-third-turn-podcast) [Doug Fagerstrom](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/mark-l-vincent-blog/topic/doug-fagerstrom) ![Mark L. Vincent](https://www.designgroupinternational.com/hubfs/Mark%20new%20pic.jpeg) Post by [Mark L. 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